Lol at people w obscure engineering degrees like "civil" interviewing for patent

These are always auto-dings. Such poor career choices.
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I am an expert on the Engineering job market.
cowgod  08/11/17
(Guy who doesn't know what "obscure" means)
Pumonymous  08/11/17
(civil engineer)
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It's literally the LEAST "obscure" engineering fie...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
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Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
Lol I don't give a shit about 56-yr old engineers from some ...
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"I don't give a shit" let me stop you there... ...
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
Ok let me rephrase. Nobody gives a shit about your obscure ...
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let me rephrase. you're a pumo. nobody gives a shit about...
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
"Employment of civil engineers is projected to grow 8 p...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
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Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
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only person anywhere, on any platform  08/11/17
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boner_police  08/11/17
(poli sci shithead)
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
(civil engineer)
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always. a. pumo. see above. you got pwn3d (http://www....
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
Civil engineer here. lol @ programmer fags.
animeboi  08/11/17
Tell us about your jerb What stuff do you design? Do you ...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
My degree is BS Civil but I call myself a structural enginee...
animeboi  08/11/17
Had to be bridges
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Can you tell us your pay and years of experience? Or approxi...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
15 years. I make an adequate income. I work 40 hours a w...
animeboi  08/11/17
Difficulty of FE/PE? There's a special extra test for struct...
Such anathema to us!  08/11/17
FE is mildly difficult and best taken last year of school. ...
animeboi  08/12/17
curious what salary range for a real engineer is?
20 yrs of education for a 3yr career  08/12/17
what i don't understand is why you need a ee to be a patent ...
Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh  08/11/17
Because there isn't much of a market for patenting bridges o...
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but why can't a cive prosecution ee patents. one or two cou...
Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh  08/11/17
No
AYD  08/11/17
but the ee knows how to patent the cure for cancer. got it
Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh  08/11/17
No they dont, you hire Bio PHDs for that, ee/cs for all the ...
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ee/cs knows how to patent a bridge, but meche doesn't know h...
Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh  08/11/17
youre taking to moron
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
I didn't say ee/cs know how to patent a bridge, there just i...
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you don't. OP is flame. biglaw ip lit cares more about la...
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
True, but EE/CS is a big plus even for IP lit.
+1 colonists  08/11/17
depends on the firm. could be a big plus, or a slight plus. ...
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
(It is 2010)
I Am  08/11/17
you're a fucking idiot if you're going into IP lit in 2017
Ciroc Obama  08/11/17
Cr. Unless ANDA/Biosimilars.
I Am  08/11/17
I didn't say biglaw ip lit
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I was a patent litigator at a top firm with a philosophy deg...
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tbf, i got an A in organic chem and i've written CC briefs i...
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
The judge/clerk writing the Markman order probably didn't ha...
+1 colonists  08/11/17
lol cr
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...
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
This is 100% true.
I Am  08/11/17
ITT: thread does *not* go as OP planned. always. a. pumo.
Judah Ben Jamin  08/11/17
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Poast Malone  08/11/17
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only person anywhere, on any platform  08/11/17
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Pumonymous  08/11/17
How about "industrial engineering"
AYD  08/11/17
(Ga Tech grad)
only person anywhere, on any platform  08/11/17
That's right up. Civil, industrial, nuclear, aerospace, etc...
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One is not like the other. Civil Engineering is not an obscu...
only person anywhere, on any platform  08/11/17
It's equally useless for patent law.
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Know a few industrial/operations engineers in ip. Doesn't ma...
Poast Malone  08/11/17
They won't get jobs unless they are 8+ females.
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Neither will you
Poast Malone  08/11/17
You're further exposing your retardation. Aerospace engineer...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
sorry bro, they are unhirable in patent.
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Are mechanical engineers unhireable in patent?
Pumonymous  08/11/17
No, although they aren't particularly in demand. We don't l...
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Not a lawyer so not familiar with the nuances of your client...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
This guy's client is the black suit he's laid out for oci ne...
Poast Malone  08/11/17
...
1994 Stephen Malkmus  08/12/17
Not about ignorance. I can't even tell you how many times a...
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Except an AeroE degree ACTUALLY IS "pretty much" a...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
I honestly don't know or care. I imagine it must vary from ...
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Isn't there some mechanism by which your shitboomer clients ...
Pumonymous  08/11/17
We don't see that many aero candidates, and we don't have th...
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Cr it's also the same department (MAE) at most schools
Poast Malone  08/11/17
For that matter, civil is probably 80% overlap with mechanic...
Such anathema to us!  08/11/17
Doesn't matter, auto-ding. Maybe if it was 80% cs/ee, they ...
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Why would you bump this thread? You got thoroughly gaped. Or...
Pumonymous  08/12/17
Lol at patents nerds having hierarchies in their sad little ...
Non sequitur  08/12/17
(bs in biological anthropology)
AYD  08/12/17
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7:39 PM - August 11th, 2017

These are always auto-dings. Such poor career choices.


cowgod

(theimmigrant@live.com)


7:45 PM - August 11th, 2017

I am an expert on the Engineering job market.


Pumonymous


7:45 PM - August 11th, 2017

(Guy who doesn't know what "obscure" means)


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7:52 PM - August 11th, 2017

(civil engineer)


Pumonymous


7:58 PM - August 11th, 2017

It's literally the LEAST "obscure" engineering field; there are more civil engineers than any other kind of engineer, you gigantic retard.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=engineers+people+employed


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:01 PM - August 11th, 2017


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8:09 PM - August 11th, 2017

Lol I don't give a shit about 56-yr old engineers from some bygone era hanging on for a few more years. In 2017, "civil" engineering is simply obscure, especially for people trying to muscle their way into patent law.


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:10 PM - August 11th, 2017

"I don't give a shit"

let me stop you there... you're a pumo. your opinion isn't important.


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8:12 PM - August 11th, 2017

Ok let me rephrase. Nobody gives a shit about your obscure CivE degree.


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:14 PM - August 11th, 2017

let me rephrase.

you're a pumo. nobody gives a shit about your opinion as to who gives a shit or doesnt give a shit about particular engineering degrees.


Pumonymous


8:13 PM - August 11th, 2017

"Employment of civil engineers is projected to grow 8 percent from 2014 to 2024, about as fast as the average for all occupations."

https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/civil-engineers.htm

It's a good thing you're already pumo, hey?


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:15 PM - August 11th, 2017


only person anywhere, on any platform

(the artist formerly known as JCM)


10:57 PM - August 11th, 2017


boner_police


11:23 PM - August 11th, 2017


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


7:51 PM - August 11th, 2017

(poli sci shithead)


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7:52 PM - August 11th, 2017

(civil engineer)


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:01 PM - August 11th, 2017

always. a. pumo.

see above. you got pwn3d

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967499)


animeboi


8:10 PM - August 11th, 2017

Civil engineer here. lol @ programmer fags.


Pumonymous


8:16 PM - August 11th, 2017

Tell us about your jerb

What stuff do you design? Do you enjoy it? How's the pay? What are the best and worst parts of the work?


animeboi


8:24 PM - August 11th, 2017

My degree is BS Civil but I call myself a structural engineer. I design bridges. The pay is OK. The best part of my work, for me, it when I have to come up with a novel solution to a particular problem, or create a complex model of something. The worst part is midnight bridge inspections.


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8:25 PM - August 11th, 2017

Had to be bridges


Pumonymous


9:01 PM - August 11th, 2017

Can you tell us your pay and years of experience? Or approximately if you're worried about doobs or whatever.

How many hours per week do you typically work? How hard is it to find a job as a structural engineer? Both in terms of how you'd perceive the market for new graduates right now, and in terms of if you yourself were fired, how long it would take you to find a new job.


animeboi


9:22 PM - August 11th, 2017

15 years. I make an adequate income.

I work 40 hours a week normally. If there is a deadline I work as long as I have to to meet it. You will be paid straight time overtime unless you are management and on a salary. The market is regional and here (Chicago) the market has high demand for structural engineers of all levels, you will find a job. If I were fired I could find a job in Chicagoland pretty easily.


Such anathema to us!

(as The Americans)


11:10 PM - August 11th, 2017

Difficulty of FE/PE? There's a special extra test for structural, right?


animeboi


5:41 PM - August 12th, 2017

FE is mildly difficult and best taken last year of school. PE is easy. SE (Structural Engineer) test is hard as fuck and has a lower pass rate than the bar, but its only required in a few states.


20 yrs of education for a 3yr career


5:38 PM - August 12th, 2017

curious what salary range for a real engineer is?


Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh


8:10 PM - August 11th, 2017

what i don't understand is why you need a ee to be a patent lawyer. like in undergrad what if i have no idea what ee even is?


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8:13 PM - August 11th, 2017

Because there isn't much of a market for patenting bridges or whatever it is that civil engineers do.


Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh


8:14 PM - August 11th, 2017

but why can't a cive prosecution ee patents. one or two courses on circuits would suffice, no?


AYD


8:18 PM - August 11th, 2017

No


Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh


8:20 PM - August 11th, 2017

but the ee knows how to patent the cure for cancer. got it


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8:23 PM - August 11th, 2017

No they dont, you hire Bio PHDs for that, ee/cs for all the tech work, and you don't hire CivEs


Hair Pie Ohh Hair Pie Ohh


8:26 PM - August 11th, 2017

ee/cs knows how to patent a bridge, but meche doesn't know how to patent computer memory?


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:27 PM - August 11th, 2017

youre taking to moron


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10:55 PM - August 11th, 2017

I didn't say ee/cs know how to patent a bridge, there just isn't much demand for such a skill.


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:13 PM - August 11th, 2017

you don't. OP is flame.

biglaw ip lit cares more about law school and grades.


+1 colonists


8:16 PM - August 11th, 2017

True, but EE/CS is a big plus even for IP lit.


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:19 PM - August 11th, 2017

depends on the firm. could be a big plus, or a slight plus.

the reality is that any ip lit candidate with a stem degree -- ee/cs or bio -- and who meets the school/grades cutoff will have tons of opportunities.


I Am


8:20 PM - August 11th, 2017

(It is 2010)


Ciroc Obama


8:36 PM - August 11th, 2017

you're a fucking idiot if you're going into IP lit in 2017


I Am


8:38 PM - August 11th, 2017

Cr. Unless ANDA/Biosimilars.


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8:24 PM - August 11th, 2017

I didn't say biglaw ip lit


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8:15 PM - August 11th, 2017

I was a patent litigator at a top firm with a philosophy degree lmao... I was writing claim construction briefs in billion dollar ANDA cases and had literally no clue what the fuck any of the words meant. it was pretty 180


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:16 PM - August 11th, 2017

tbf, i got an A in organic chem and i've written CC briefs in billion dollar anda cases and i dont have a fucking clue what the words mean either. patent lit is a fucking lulzy joke.


+1 colonists


8:17 PM - August 11th, 2017

The judge/clerk writing the Markman order probably didn't have any clue what any of the words mean either. LJL at our patent system.


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8:18 PM - August 11th, 2017

lol cr


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:20 PM - August 11th, 2017


I Am


8:21 PM - August 11th, 2017

This is 100% true.


Judah Ben Jamin

(*)


8:20 PM - August 11th, 2017

ITT: thread does *not* go as OP planned. always. a. pumo.


Poast Malone


10:06 PM - August 11th, 2017


only person anywhere, on any platform

(the artist formerly known as JCM)


10:57 PM - August 11th, 2017


Pumonymous


11:25 PM - August 11th, 2017


AYD


9:19 PM - August 11th, 2017

How about "industrial engineering"


only person anywhere, on any platform

(the artist formerly known as JCM)


10:58 PM - August 11th, 2017

(Ga Tech grad)


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10:58 PM - August 11th, 2017

That's right up. Civil, industrial, nuclear, aerospace, etc. All those people are auto-dings.

Also "systems engineering" or "general engineering." Those are the most lolzy.


only person anywhere, on any platform

(the artist formerly known as JCM)


11:01 PM - August 11th, 2017

One is not like the other. Civil Engineering is not an obscure field.


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11:06 PM - August 11th, 2017

It's equally useless for patent law.


Poast Malone


11:02 PM - August 11th, 2017

Know a few industrial/operations engineers in ip. Doesn't matter if you can sit for the patent bar and can be billed out. You seem dumb and about to go through oci. Good luck.


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11:10 PM - August 11th, 2017

They won't get jobs unless they are 8+ females.


Poast Malone


11:11 PM - August 11th, 2017

Neither will you


Pumonymous


11:04 PM - August 11th, 2017

You're further exposing your retardation. Aerospace engineering degrees have 95% curriculum overlap with mechanical engineering degrees.


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11:06 PM - August 11th, 2017

sorry bro, they are unhirable in patent.


Pumonymous


11:17 PM - August 11th, 2017

Are mechanical engineers unhireable in patent?


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11:22 PM - August 11th, 2017

No, although they aren't particularly in demand. We don't look at what classes people took. We look at the listed name of your degree and your GPA. This is all client driven. We can't put "aerospace engineers" on some random company's mechanical work and say it's close enough.


Pumonymous


11:25 PM - August 11th, 2017

Not a lawyer so not familiar with the nuances of your clients' ignorance


Poast Malone


11:26 PM - August 11th, 2017

This guy's client is the black suit he's laid out for oci next week


1994 Stephen Malkmus


12:04 AM - August 12th, 2017


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11:27 PM - August 11th, 2017

Not about ignorance. I can't even tell you how many times a candidate with some random major has told me with the classes they took, they pretty much could have a cs or ee degree. Nobody wants to hear it, you have the degree you have.


Pumonymous


11:31 PM - August 11th, 2017

Except an AeroE degree ACTUALLY IS "pretty much" a MechE degree. It's 100% about ignorance that you don't know this. Look at the curriculum for each major.


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11:34 PM - August 11th, 2017

I honestly don't know or care. I imagine it must vary from school to school. Regardless, I know clients at non-aero clients will not know what an aerospace engineering degree is and will not want to see such people working on their projects.


Pumonymous


11:36 PM - August 11th, 2017

Isn't there some mechanism by which your shitboomer clients can be brought up to speed on the most basic facts about various technical credentials?

"I honestly don't know" - this is pretty much what is meant by the word "ignorance," breh


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11:42 PM - August 11th, 2017

We don't see that many aero candidates, and we don't have that much of a need for mechE people anyways. They need to have rockstar credentials as well as interpersonal skills to have any chance. No incentive to try to accomodate obscure majors.


Poast Malone


11:36 PM - August 11th, 2017

Cr it's also the same department (MAE) at most schools


Such anathema to us!

(as The Americans)


11:20 PM - August 11th, 2017

For that matter, civil is probably 80% overlap with mechanical, too.


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11:23 PM - August 11th, 2017

Doesn't matter, auto-ding. Maybe if it was 80% cs/ee, they would have a shot.


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10:53 AM - August 12th, 2017


Pumonymous


5:35 PM - August 12th, 2017

Why would you bump this thread? You got thoroughly gaped. Or do you still think being obscure and being unhelpful for patent law are the same thing? State your IQ.


Non sequitur


5:39 PM - August 12th, 2017

Lol at patents nerds having hierarchies in their sad little nerd world


AYD


6:08 PM - August 12th, 2017

(bs in biological anthropology)


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7:03 PM - August 12th, 2017